Thursday, October 24, 2013

Calling Bs on Apuleius Platonicus that ancient Pagans were not as bad as Christians

His comment was, you could not find in all of ancient history, where a conquered people were forced to convert by their Pagan conquerors. Thread to which it came from see the comments(now closed)http://wildhunt.org/2013/10/pagan-voices-vivianne-crowley-peter-dybing-thorn-coyle-and-more.html  Mind you TadhgMor made the reply I was thinking of, but he originally started this debate calling out bigotry on Islam, when someone had written convert or die theme, which makes me roll my eyes.

my reply, which I must admit doesn't really show other then Aknaten(and he didn't really conquer Egypt so much as he was the Pharoah, but he did radically change stuff in Egypt, and it was my way or die mentality) The Romans were doing this to an already conquered region, but I think it still applies.
Akhnaten http://www.heptune.com/Akhnaten.html

http://www.roman-empire.net/religion/religion.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocletianic_Persecution
Yes I am using wiki, gives a decent overview. Mind you during some of the Emperors it wasn't just Christians but also Jews that were persecuted. 

http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/history/persecution.htm

http://www.unrv.com/culture/christian-persecution.php

Mind you this whole theme of Pagans aren't as bad as Christians and or Islam is asinine.  It's ignoring the ancient atrocities that went on back then.  Lets name a few shall we.

Crucifiction, not only the Romans loved this method.  (See what they did to Spartacus) http://www.bible.ca/d-history-archeology-crucifixion-cross.htm

The lovely Brazen Bull, where you stuck people you didn't like, into a Bronze bull, lit a fire under it's belly and the screams of the dying, made it sound like an angry bull.

The Norse liked to turn you into an eagle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_eagle  This is where you take someone cut their ribs by the spine, pull them out, and pull out the lungs. shudders

Here is a site that shows some of them

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/news-12-most-exorbitant-and-vicious-execution-methods-worlds-history?image=1

I've heard some Pagans complain about the Burning of the library at Alexandria, completely ignoring that the first burning was done by Julius Caesar.  Yes the Christians did burn the library, but by the time they had gotten to it, much of the library was gone.

The Christians and the Muslims are no more aholes, then our ancient fore fathers and mothers were.  Before you start poking fingers, make sure your own home is immune from having stones thrown on it.  In regards to Christians being worse then Pagans, our own glass windows won't stand the test on that.  Hell some of what the Christians did, they learned from Rome.  Though we should keep in mind, the Saints and Martyrs persecution, when next we point fingers at how teh Gays are making society fall down, or any other group we don't understand.



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